IKE’S LIST OF DOMAINS AT AUCTION FOR Tuesday, November 21st

8 Replies to “IKE’S LIST OF DOMAINS AT AUCTION FOR Tuesday, November 21st”

1. His boycott of Godaddy reminds me of Will Ferrell going streaking in Old School. Out there by himself.

   It’s a pain in the ass but we’re dealing with other people’s expiring domains, not private sales. They have rights as much as the person buying them. Take away those rights on renewal and we’d have even more problems

2. The owner of a name shouldn’t be allowed to bid on their own name at auction. If they are that’s a problem.
   The owner of a name that goes to an auction that goes to completion shouldn’t be allowed to renew it.
   GoDaddy is a big enough company with enough money to figure out how to make it work.

   1. In the situation I referenced the only thing it would do is make Godaddy more money. I think you can make the case that Godaddy quasi controls it at that point, but again why would you do it, there’s little to no benefit for the registrant to bid. Even if it’s for appraisal purposes the data would be tainted.
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      As far as not being able to renew your domain you would have to change the icann rules or end Auto Renew grace as soon as the auction is over. Namejet works this way and you can still renew the name up until the auction ends, maybe even during the auction depending on the registrar. The difference is that most of the registrars have convoluted renewal or transfer processes, like netsol and register.com and the user agreements are written differently so that auto renew grace ends at the completion or start of the auction. (not sure which).
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      Take name.com for example. They’re inventory goes through namejet and then if there are no bidders it goes to a diminishing price auction on their own site. This means that somehow they have flexibility when to transfer the name and end the autorenew grace period. Godaddy can do the same thing, the original registrants ownership would end at the completion of the auction or when the winning bidder pays for the domain. Also if you notice, some namejet auctions start at different times or don’t acutally go through even after backorders are placed, or names are delayed transferring accounts depending on the registrar.
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      It makes me nervous when a registrar can start changing the rules and/or doesn’t have checks and balances. I understand that it can be frustrating to win an auction and not get the name.

3. When Ricky doesn’t get his way, he likes to cry publicly about it. Poor, poor Ricky. I really feel for him. Good analysis on why this isn’t a big deal …. except to Rick. Grow up, mr. millionaire. The world doesn’t revolve around you.

4. The real interesting question is .. who actually owns the “expired” domain at that point?
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   1- If it’s the registrant, then why is the registrar even auctioning it?
   2- If it’s the registrar, then the “original” registrant isn’t even technically registering their own domain!
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   I know the truth is something in between, hidden in the legalese .. but still interesting question …
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   As for the “Redemption” phase … I thought that was only actually used in legal situations and not really a usual option (between ~day 45 and ~80)?
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   Otherwise I think the actual purpose for that redemption phase was more to create a clear separation from the expired owner. Basically that for 40 days, emails/traffic will bounce, which is what (ICANN and/or Verisign) consider to be a fair amount of time in wish a large portion of previous visitors/contacts will get clear email bounce errors and “domain not found” errors .. giving a signal that the old owner is no longer in control of the domain. Which all kinda makes sense when you think about it.

   1. Redemption is the time period before pending delete that cannot be changed or altered by the registrar and is determined by the registry. Names in redemption can still be renewed by the owner, the registry collects the fee. Last year I sold a .pics that was in redemption, the .pics redemption period is 120 days, So I paid the fee to reinstate the name and sell it. Any name at godaddy can be renewed this way, so long as it didn’t sell in the auction process. If you go to the expired section of your dashboard, you’ll see names recoverable through the Godaddy and names recoverable through the Registry, these names are in registry redemption.
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      The reason I say that it’s the fail safe is that the original intent was for the owner to be able to have a longer period to save the name. Registrars were then allowed to change the user agreement to be able to monetize this inventory. There’s a shit load of money going through the expired auctions and in the case of verisign, they probably allowed this to mitigate the amount of names going through the drop and to decrease the power of drop catchers, but I’m just speculating.

      1. Wow .. you learn something new every day! Thanks .. makes a bit more sense now. I did notice some of my domains I let expire kick around waaaaaay longer than expected in my “expired domains” folder .. never really figured it out because some seemed to leave much earlier .. guess those were the ones picked up on auction. Although it seems some get stuck in limbo .. which I had tracked all this a little better from the start.
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         Do you know when the WhoIs info changes? Seems before the original registrant’s info stayed much longer than it does now (now it switches to showing “c/o GoDaddy Redemption services” and GoDaddy’s actual address info, before even the end of the auction period)

5. FYI .. got this in my email from Godaddy within the last 1-2 hours:

   “Good morning,
   We are making a change to our domain name expiry process and wanted to give you enough notice to make decisions on your portfolio. GoDaddy is changing the domain renewal timeline from 42 to 30 days for most domains. Based on our research, less than 1% of our customers renew after 30 days.
   Starting Dec 4, the following changes will happen to expired domain names:
   • After Day 5 of expiration, DNS, email, hosting, redirecting and any other DNS-dependent services will be interrupted and stop working.
   • After Day 30 of expiration, domain names are no longer able to be renewed or transferred away.
   We wanted to give a heads -up so you have enough notice to make decisions on your portfolio. As always please don’t hesitate to reach out with any questions.
   Thanks,”