The Internet is a beautiful thing. It takes this giant world and condenses it into this nice little package. Things that seem so far away are in reality now just a click away. On the other hand, sometimes you find things and people that you had no idea live right next door.
I was trolling the Internet looking for domain names and it brought me back to one of my “want to own” domains, Champaign.com. A domain owned by Dennis Toeppen. I knew the name. He owns a bus line here in town and the domain forwards to that address. I had never really done any real homework on the name but knew that the domain wouldn’t be cheap so I figured if I ever had any “real money” I would contact him.
So last week I decided I had enough money to consider making an offer on Champaign.com and called one of my daily running friends, Joe Murphy. Joe and I run together almost every morning. He’s a lawyer in town and specializes in communications which used to be the telephone industry, but obviously has evolved. He’s lived here his whole life and knows every single person in town. I figured I would get background on the owner. Joe and I mostly shoot the bull (OK I do most of the talking) and Joe usually can’t say much because of confidentiality agreements but I decided to ask him if he knew anything about Mr. Toeppen.
When I asked Joe, he gave a little chuckle. He laughed because Toeppen is/was Joe’s client. It turns out that Dennis Toeppen is/was a big time domainer. In the mid 90’s Toepen bought hundreds of domains. He bought lots of generics but he also bought approximately 250 domains that were the exact match of many large corporations. He spared no one, he bought the biggest and the best. Now remember, this is 1995 and it’s the wild west out there. There had been no precedents set as to who holds the rights to these things. The first to question Toeppen is Panavision. Toeppen owns Panavision.com and tells Panavision that it’s a visual tribute to Pana, IL. A little town here in Illinois. He offers to sell it to them for $13,000. Panavision doesn’t buy the name or his rationale and takes him to court.
Here is how Mr. Toeppen described his early domaining career
In 1995, I registered about 200 domain names. Some were generic English words, like hydrogen.com. Others corresponded with trademarks that were shared by more than one company, like americanstandard.com. And some corresponded with trademarked coined words, like panavision.com.
It was clear to me at the time that domain names were valuable, undeveloped virtual real estate. There was absolutely no statutory or case law regarding trademarks in the context of Internet domain names at the time. It seemed to be an excellent opportunity to do the virtual equivalent of buying up property around a factory — eventually the factory owner would realize that he needed the scarce resource which I possessed.
I sat on my virtual real estate and waited for offers (and threats). Many even-tempered folks purchased domain names and went on their way. Others sued me. I litigated two domain names because I wanted to determine if a domain name holder is legally bound to turn over a domain to a trademark holder.
Unfortunately, Federal Courts sided with trademark holders in Intermatic and Panavision. Rather than accepting my real estate analogy, the courts likened my actions to taking a lollipop from a defenseless toddler. Shortly after the courts ruled against me, I abandoned all domain registrations corresponding with trademarks.
The Panavision and Intermatic cases formed the foundation of modern Internet trademark law. Unfortunately, both unreasonably favor the trademark holders.
It’s worth noting that a well-known letter which I sent to Panavision in 1996 was not actually a demand, as it was characterized by Panavision’s attorney. Rather, it was a response to multiple unpleasant phone calls and phone messages from a particular individual at Panavision. Of course, it is the job of one’s attorney to transform objective reality into something more melodramatic and exciting than it really is. Panavision’s attorney was adept at spouting melodramatic language. If only he was not opposing counsel!
My friend Joe becomes the legal counsel to Toeppen and little did they know, they would become legal precedent for the future of the Internet. They lost that case and as Joe described it, pretty badly. They lost a few more and eventually Toeppen realized that he was going to lose all his cases and dropped all the trademarked names. Turns out when looking back in history, Dennis Toeppen is the original cybersquatter. I still find it amazing that after all this time domaining and and living here in Central Illinois that I didn’t know the story and even crazier that one of my good friends took part in it and really hadn’t brought it up. He’s done a little legal work for me on the sale of websites and had mentioned he had defended some cases in the 90’s but had no idea that he had defended THE case. Joe is as intelligent man as I’ve ever met and know doubt he had virtually no chance of winning, but to this day he seems a little disappointed he didn’t do better in those cases. Even when given a virtually impossible case, it seems lawyers still want to win.
Despite the losses, legal and financial, Dennis Toeppen did incredibly well. Here’s a non updated list of some of his domains that he had for sale (he owned many more than this but were never listed)
boardwalk.com SOLD coloradoriver.com SOLD devilstower.com empirestate.com SOLD grantpark.com lincolnpark.com SOLD michiganave.com michiganavenue.com mtrushmore.com SOLD nationalparks.com SOLD oldfaithful.com SOLD statueofliberty.com SOLD Ski Domains ----------- skibreckenridge.com SOLD skijacksonhole.com SOLD skikeystone.com SOLD skinaked.com SOLD skiparkcity.com SOLD skisteamboat.com SOLD skitaos.com SOLD skitelluride.com SOLD Towns ----- arcola.net $ 1,000 c-u.com $ 10,000 centralil.com $ 3,000 champaign-urbana.com $ 10,000 cripplecreek.com SOLD cutbank.com $ 5,000 decatur.com SOLD decatur.net SOLD farmercity.com see below farmercity.net both farmercity domains for $2,000 gibsoncity.com $ 7,000 glenwoodsprings.com $ 25,000 havre.com SOLD idahosprings.com $ 7,000 kankakee.net $ 3,000 mahomet.com $ 5,000 mattoon.com $ 7,000 monon.com $ 3,000 monticello.com SOLD newglarus.com $ 4,000 piatt.net $ 1,500 rantoul.com see below rantoul.net both rantoul domains for $6,000 tolono.com $ 1,000 tuscola.com SOLD watseka.com see below watseka.net both watseka domains for $6,000 Other ----- acquit.com SOLD airbrakes.com bathtub.com SOLD burgerhound.com burp.com $ 90,000 champco.com consolidated.net SOLD courier.net SOLD curbappeal.com SOLD devilshead.com electrochrome.com emailbag.com emailroom.com enterhere.com farmer.net fastwhite.com SOLD fastyellow.com flipflop.com fuckyou-payme.com See also: Goodfellas grandcentral.net gutters.com SOLD hausman.com hubcaps.com SOLD hurl.com hydrogen.com SOLD inert.com injury.net SOLD internetgazette.com jacks.com SOLD kaboom.com SOLD littleyellow.com locksmith.com SOLD mailecho.com messenger.net SOLD netgazette.com netsolution.com nukes.com SOLD ord.com O'Hare Airport philo.net $ 5,000 pills.com SOLD powermail.net rampantparanoia.com renewvium.com renuvium.com rubbers.com $ 50,000 semen.com SOLD shrinkingworld.com smartmail.net smartwhite.com SOLD smartyellow.com swine.com tampon.com SOLD tapeout.com thefunnycompany.com thelyrics.com timers.com SOLD trademark.net SOLD trademark-lawyer.com useless-info.com uselessinformation.com wcrr.com webadvertise.com westernpacific.net yo-momma.com zit.com SOLD
This list hasn’t been updated in years but regardless, he owned all these domains and a few more. I will point out that Toeppen did win his GEO domain cases, namely Monticello.com. He bought all the local town names around here and Monticello is a quaint old community 30 miles away. In 2003 he was sued by the Monticello Group and won (unfortunately Joe wasn’t on this one). It helped set precedent that city names couldn’t be trademarked and allowed private individuals to own lots of cities, states, and towns.
I don’t know Toeppen, never met him, so I can’t judge him personally. I do think he’s brilliant because he saw the value of domains and what they meant to the future. As Joe said, it’s easy to look in hindsight and say that registering those names was stupid but you have to remember this was a completely different time. Just because the street was named McDonalds didn’t necessarily mean that McDonalds was the only one that could own the street. At least that’s what they thought at the time. On the other hand, I have heard many a story about Dennis Toeppen. Stories from people I know well. They all say he can be an ass. You know the kind of guy. He actually knows more than you and treats you as such. The kind of person that you insult by offering less than what he deems the value. I’ve heard this story 5 or 6 times now and while nobody like to be treated like an idiot, this is also the kind of response that makes you millions. When someone offers you $10,000 for a name and you act like he has embarrassed himself with that offer. A “come back when you have real money” type response. On the non business side, I’ve heard he’s a very nice guy. A guy that used to like to get outside, to exercise, to fly his plane, and hang with friends.
I’m going to get in contact with Dennis over the next couple of weeks because I would love to hear his stories. It’s not often you get to sit down and talk to a true pioneer. Pioneering that made him a lot of money and notoriety.
He owned trademark.net, oh the irony…
Curious. Are you still making an offer for Champaign.com despite all the additional info you’ve gotten?
I will certainly call but I’m pretty sure it’s out of my price range. He’s a patient person and is proud of the name. Not great for bargaining
Thanks for the story Shane!
Nice story. Thanks for sharing. I’ve been to your neck of the woods. I used to live in Chicago for a couple of years. Years ago…back in college, I drove to Champaign for a blink date. haha
Would love to meet him as well. Maybe you can drag him out to a domainer event in Chicago or STL. He was one of the first central IL guys I found when I started looking for good domains. He made a mint with domains and still has a lot of good ones. I had zero dinero when I found his site at inert and saw he started selling those off . Bummer
if we could go back in time all the generics would be all gone , but i know on a personal level i would have not been searching for other peoples glory/names
I’d be curious to know what he’s up to now and if his keen eye for opportunity translated into other areas down the road.