I Wrote This 3 Years Ago and Nothing Has Changed

Dec 26 2016

Everyone has advice on how to make money in domain investing.  I wrote this three years ago and as I read it again, I still believe all 10 points stand true.  Read it again and let me know what you think

 

1.  Thinking that your life and surroundings represents the entire world:  While I agree that doing what you know is a great place to start, there are too many people that forget they live in this tiny tiny little portion of the world.  Domains are worldwide with billions of potential buyers.  There are just too many domainers that are going up to bat lacking skill, experience, and are swinging with a wet noodle. Yet they think they know what they are doing.

2.  You’re a gambler:   Many of the people in this industry are addicted gamblers.  Not in the traditional sense, but the sense that they are putting up huge risks for big returns.  Buying thousands of names like scratch off lottery tickets.  They get high off the auctions and have to keep adding names to the portfolio on a daily basis.

3.  Trying to make a living on the “credit cards in the middle of the table dinner” style of domaining.  When my friends and I go out to dinner we all put our credit cards in the middle of the table and the waiter will randomly draw one out of a hat.  The card drawn pays for the whole dinner.  Not a big deal at a dinner of 4 or 5 but I have to admit I’ve shit bricks at the 30 person dinners (I’ve never been drawn).  If you’re buying 50 domains hoping that one sells for enough to pay for others you’re doing it wrong.  Each domain needs to be able to pay for itself or why would you buy it.

4.  You are passing on 500% returns.  aka Always swinging for the fence.  How many times have you passed on excellent returns because you thought you could do better later?  And then you didn’t.  Again, you’re swinging for a home run with a wet noodle.   If someone comes in and offers you $500 for a name you hand regged 6 months ago and you pass, then you better have gotten in early on some great term because otherwise you’ve missed a chance to make a profit

5.  You’ve forgotten that the end result is to have cash in your pocket.  I pay my bills with money, not domains.  Sure, you want to get the very most you can for your domains but the reality is that some will go up and some will go down.  Nothing is for certain.  Your domain is worth what someone will pay for it next week. After that it has risk.  You HAVE to make profits along the way.  In my opinion, if you are not making annual profits on your past domain purchases you are doing it wrong or you are building a portfolio.  But you can’t build eternally.

6.  You forget that relationships drive business.  This is where so many people are clueless.  Businesses that do well establish relationships with others that can help them make money. Not one time deals ,but long lasting relationships.  They help and receive help from others.  They play favorites and are a favorite.  Morgan Linton and I have done well not because we have the most money, are the best name pickers, but because we know who to work with.  Some get pissed because we get special favors but if you’ve seen our pictures it’s obvious they’re not doing business with us because of our looks.  It’s because like all good businesses, we help those that help us.  Every time you criticize an industry member you are burning a bridge.

7.  You are using other domain investors to value your name.  I’m not sure you are going to get the best opinion of value from a fellow competitor?  That’s essentially what you are asking for if you ask another domain investor’s opinion of your domain. You have to understand why an end user would buy a name.  I use my wife or random people at work to test whether a name has value.  If they “that’s a great name” I know that it has value.  If a non domainer gets the value then I am more likely to get a business that understands it as well.

8.  You’re reading too many opinion articles and not enough data.  You can’t read too many sales reports.  The more you understand which domains sell for what the better domain investor you will be.  I’ve started putting up the daily sales instead of my regular article because it has more value to you than me flapping my mouth.

9.  No buying strategy:  Do you have an end goal?  An exit plan?  What’s your business model?  Is it buy low and sell higher?  Congrats you’ve graduated from 2nd grade business class. There has to be a secondary plan beyond the “sell it for more than I paid for it” method. Most domain sellers are known for something.  It could be as simple as good quality names like Berkens and Most Wanted.  Or solid keywords like Elliot.   I’m known for 5Ls and short domains.  The more you are known for something the better chance people will come to you looking for those type.  You are not going to sell all of your domains. It’s a fact.

10.  You are buying based on price rather than quality of name.  The saying “it takes money to make money” doesn’t just mean you have to have money.  It also means that many people think differently if they don’t have enough to do things right.  We all know that regular maintenance on a car will help you save money in the long run on repairs.  The savings will be more than the cost of the maintenance.  Yet people that are tight on money skip it.  The same goes with domains.  Many people will buy ten $100 domains rather than one $1000 name.  They feel like they are spreading the risk.  The don’t feel like they’ve spent as much because it’s $100 at a time.

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6 comments

  1. Supratik.Basu

    it’s all in the name as Frank says “a domain can change your life”…. TMHCC.com sells for 65K within 4 yrs after registration while trm.com for 44K after 21 yrs… got offer of 10K even within 60 days lock in period … just need 1 million to retire from domain business 🙂

  2. Eric Lyon

    I have to agree that everything you listed is still in play today for domain investors. I think the bigger issue is that there are just so many different blogs, forums, video tutorials, etc. saturating the industry with mixed opinions/advice, that it confuses newer investors.

    1. Vivian

      @Eric Lyon, I agree that having a lot of resources initially can be confusing, but it can also provide you different perspectives from which you can choose what kind of names you want to pursue, negotiation tips, etc. The list is great. As a newbie what I have observed is the lottery and home-run mindset, even in some longtimers at NP–no plan, let alone an exit plan.


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      ShaneCultra

      Eric,

      I don’t get this “too much information” concept you keep talking about. When it comes to how to make money there have been and always will be 1000 different opinions and approaches. Once you clear all the condescending and negative comments that flank the opinions and concepts you are left with some good info to sift through and figure out which one works best for you. I’ve said a million times, new investors aren’t lambs and naive people coming to play. Many are rock stars in different fields and looking for another form of assets to try and make money with. The only people that should be shunned are the writers that choose to do a public blog but never publicly state what they sold or bought. They should only rehash the news not give opinion.

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